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Sleep deprivation severely inhibits learning, so it's undesirable for learning a new skill like tulpamancy as well

fixing my sleep schedule

i’m not surprised to read what they said if they slept 4h

8:27 AM

that’s expected

Luminesce: Oh yeah, getting a headache after little sleep would make sense too. (edited)

8:28 AM

Anyways, it's not a big deal in any regard unless it keeps happening over a long period of time

yeah

"Tulpa forcing-related headaches" have generally all gone away over time to my knowledge of others' experiences

8:28 AM

Hence the mental muscle theorizing

its your brain installing VMtulpa

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8:30 AM

specially because you need to activate synaptical virtualization on brain bios

8:31 AM

I cant see that emote

Luminesce: Sorry, you'll have to learn imposition to see the laughingtulpas

emote (edited)

oh, makes sense

/j as the kids say these days

8:33 AM

Imagine knowing someone's intended tone on the internet, so soft

I think we are better not knowing it

contrary to common belief /j stands for jest not joke

Unfortunately i didnt get your probably incredibly funny reference to something obscure

8:55 AM

Kitkat do you think humans accumulate on their context size during the day and then train over that context size during the night?

8:55 AM

hehehe

humans are a few instances operating together silly So there is no one context size

But there is one that is suposed to get filled in a day! Probably recopilating higher order information from some subcalls!

9:26 AM

And if you make it well over a day undefined behavior starts happening!

9:26 AM

Because it was never trained with such possitional encodings

9:32 AM

And during sleep weight updates are made

interesting

2:03 PM

suggestions about having had bad intrusive thoughts while she fronted? i've shut plurality activities because of fear

what kind of intrusive thoughts did she have that you wouldn't if you fronted?

start by sleeping more tgan 4h a night

kiri

what kind of intrusive thoughts did she have that you wouldn't if you fronted?

i had those intrusive thoughts, its caused because of her but its not her fault. also she had frequent periods of crying that faded away. they were typical thoughts of a really old person (>80) death and afterlife

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2:20 PM

fronted for a month, seems like we distanced since then (edited)

2:21 PM

also this happened last year

If I understand it correctly. A Tulpa can be vaguely described as a voice in your head. Which is also a sign of psychosis/schizophrenia. So how can you yell the difference between a tulpa and a mental illness?

Tulpas are intentionally created, and do not typically cause distress.

6:32 AM

Mental illnesses are unintentional, and are characterized by the distress and disruption they cause to a patient's mental health.

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schitzophrenia also usually gives you delusional thoughts about the world and paranoia

7:22 AM

and it usually just comes out of nowhere

Schizophrenia causes other symptoms than just that too, which is another way you can tell the difference

Basically if you feel nice you dont need treatment. (simplification) (edited)

Can you create one unintentionally and it be misdiagnosed as a mental illness?

Yes. I think if you don't do it on purpose it would be hard to know it's a tulpa. But if you don't have a disorder it could count as a tulpa.

I've always felt like I was fine. I was told by many doctors that I suffer from delusions and paranoia. Nothing in my head is violent, but I hear extra voice that's not mine. It's not mean, but it's there?

Tulpamancy is usually intentional, but yes, to answer your question, both can happen.

1:37 AM

I've always felt like I was fine. I was told by many doctors that I suffer from delusions and paranoia. Nothing in my head is violent, but I hear extra voice that's not mine. It's not mean, but it's there?

@Heathen - jump It could be an auditory hallucination of some sort. I know it can be common to hallucinate voices. Do you have any other hallucinations to coincide with it?

Well. No one has ever been. Able to tell me how to tell if what I'm seeing is real or not. So I like to believe my reality is real.

That's a good start.

1:40 AM

A tulpa, and many types of non-tulpa headmate for that matter, possess free will, and can in some cases take over the body and control its actions. Have you ever experienced either of these phenomena?

Delusions and paranoia are unrelated to tulpas

Heathen

Well. No one has ever been. Able to tell me how to tell if what I'm seeing is real or not. So I like to believe my reality is real.

I'm not sure what you mean here

like when you get drunk at the bar and everyone has to tell you about the night before. Except I don't drink and some times don't remember days at a time

That just sounds like dissociative amnesia to me. Plurality can definitely coincide with that, but that isn't a tulpamancy experience.

Yuka, I have never heard of a Tulpa before. I am diagnosed with delusions. I am researching to see if I should explore maybe being misdiagnosed

Do you find that after these episodes of amnesia, you're located in an unusual place, or have done things you cannot remember?

like when you get drunk at the bar and everyone has to tell you about the night before. Except I don't drink and some times don't remember days at a time

@Heathen - jump That's not a tulpa thingy but it is a plural thing. So it could be a dissociative disorder maybe? Since i don't think tulpas have amnesia.

So is a tulpa like a 2nd personality in your head space?

This is definitely not a common tulpamancy experience, but I'd talk to a medical professional about dissociative disorders, or at the very least, amnesia and memory loss.

So is a tulpa like a 2nd personality in your head space?

@Heathen - jump Yeah! But it doesn't make bad things happen like the dissociative disorders do.

I don't do bad things though

1:45 AM

Let me give you an example.

But you forget for days at a time, you mentioned. That's a negative symptom.

Oh, I thought you meant like "bad" things. Like hurt people

It's honestly concerning, as it (along with you stating to hear another identity or voice in your head) could be indicative of a bigger issue.

1:46 AM

Tulpamancy is non-disordered plurality, but what you describe appears to me like it could be a disordered form of plurality.

I believe that there's a common conscience. I've always thought that the extra voice in my head was just me hearing it.

What does the voice say?

Oh, I thought you meant like "bad" things. Like hurt people

@Heathen - jump Nope! Sorry. I meant things that make it bad for you. Like forgetting or feeling bad.

A lot of things really. It's not really like it's talking to me most of the time. It's like hearing a second train of thought that you some times conversate with

1:48 AM

Like when you're actively thinking, and remembering. When you remember what some one else says, your brain is mimicking their voice to the best of its capacity, but you can always here the bit of your own voice at the end?

1:51 AM

As a child I was always a super deep thinker, always playing with my imagination. I started meditating before I was a teen. I didn't know I was even meditating. I just knew if i sat quietly with my eyes closed and started thinking about stuff I could make anything I wanted happen in the world inside my head.

Heathen

As a child I was always a super deep thinker, always playing with my imagination. I started meditating before I was a teen. I didn't know I was even meditating. I just knew if i sat quietly with my eyes closed and started thinking about stuff I could make anything I wanted happen in the world inside my head.

I did that too, imagining my own worlds, daydreaming all the time, making my own perfect reality, I still do to be honest.

Part of me was hoping I found another explanation for it all rather than. The doctors.

Now I mostly over think real situations, I like to think about every detail, anything that could happen.

1:53 AM

But to sleep at night I go back to those imagined worlds.

The stigma that comes with being diagnosed with psychosis and schizophrenia is worse than living with illness itself

Part of me was hoping I found another explanation for it all rather than. The doctors.

@Heathen - jump Sometimes it's okay to have things explained by doctors. I think it can help if you're feeling bad. But if you're not feeling bad, they don't need to help! So if you feel like you don't have symptoms that make your life worse, it could be a tulpa, and you don't need to go to the doctor.

Except now, I make actual stories, instead of wanting for them to be my reality, I simply think of them as stories.

The stigma that comes with being diagnosed with psychosis and schizophrenia is worse than living with illness itself

@Heathen - jump Mm i would disagree. Schizophrenia feels bad. Kei says "it fucking sucks". I don't think the stigma is worse but if you say so...

Franco, it's kind of like that. But when you stop imagining with your conscious your subconscious continues on and then it bleeds into the world outside of your head

At the end of the day, this server is aimed at tulpas, which don't really experience some of the more serious symptoms you do. We'd be glad to help as much as possible, but it's also not the best place to ask questions about disordered plurality. There are plenty of other spaces online for that, if you really don't want to see a medical professional for this. (Not meant to come off as angry or anything, I hope that makes sense.)

I wasn't coming here to ask about disorders I came to ask about tulpas and research the differences in them and what I have going. If I don't talk about my situation so that other people with more knowledge than me can explain the similarities and differences between the 2 then how would I know?

2:00 AM

It's what ever though. Thanks to those who were being informative to me. I appreciate it

You're allowed to talk about your situation. Atlas wasn't saying you were not allowed. Just that if it's not a tulpa, it's harder for us to help.

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I wish I could help you, but I'm still a newbie in tulpamancy, I can only share my unprofessional thoughts and experiences

You knew what a tulpa was before I did, so you already had valuable information Franco. I'm not worried about professional help. I've had an army of therapist and psychiatrist give me that. I was simply looking for other avenues of guidance. "Proffessionals" usually have a piece of paper on the wall that certifies to the world that they have memorized a lot of words, and they can out those words back into the world in the right order. Thanks again. Good night (Please kick me from channel, I tried to leave but it won't let me. Sorry for bothering anyone if my topic was a bit much for them)

Have a good night, heathen, I hope you can get the info you need.

:<

Heathen

I wasn't coming here to ask about disorders I came to ask about tulpas and research the differences in them and what I have going. If I don't talk about my situation so that other people with more knowledge than me can explain the similarities and differences between the 2 then how would I know?

An example of an unintentional tulpa might be a character you talked to a lot in your head to the point they feel like they're more than just a character, like they've taken on a life of their own. This goes beyond normal imagining hypothetical conversations because there's a consistent individual vs any random person you might temporarily imagine

Hm, I've said this a lot of times before, but I found it weird how I never created an accidental tulpa, seeing as I spoke to some characters for really long before changing them, and before branding them as "just characters" by really long I mean, I had one specific character I talked to for over a year and aHalf.

It doesn't always happen. I think accidental tulpas are rare.

Sometimes it takes the intention for them to become a tulpa

Well, that particular one, I wanted it to be real, but as in physical body kind of real.

Eishi 🍄

It doesn't always happen. I think accidental tulpas are rare.

False. So, so very false

Sorry.

Talk to any avid writer and you’ll find that they all have a thoughtform that either straight up is a tulpa or very alike

2:18 AM

And they don’t know what tulpas are

2:19 AM

Example : me

2:19 AM

You think I wanted a tulpa of Error!Sans? /lh

Oh snap, OK. Wow. I was understanding it way off. You literally create them. I totes thought you meant that, for lack of better words, " had a voice pop up in your head one day, but it was a nice voice, so you just named it and went along with it" but it's really. " I am creating this person inside of my head. I know that they are there only because my thoughts make them exist. " am i right?